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Returns: What Are They?

A return, also called a revolution, is the arrival of a transiting planet to the same position it held at the time of one’s birth.  The solar return, or return of the Sun, occurs approximately at a person’s birthday. It was regarded as a very important event in Hellenistic astrology, the original form of horoscopic astrology. The solar return provides indications of the major events for the year. Similarly, the Moon’s return, or lunar return, can be used for indications regarding the month.

I have personally come to regard solar returns to be one of the most informative and indispensable predictive techniques. In this series of articles, we will start with some Hellenistic basics of return interpretation. Future article may add additional ways of interpreting returns as given by later Hellenistic and medieval astrologers.

The Solar Return as a Set of Transits to the Natal Chart

For the most part, in early Hellenistic astrology, solar returns were not regarded as separate charts in their own right. Rather they were viewed in terms of transits to the natal chart. That is the approach of Dorotheus (1st century CE). In this post, I address Dorotheus-style returns, in which we examine returns as a series of transits about the natal chart. The rules for interpreting returns in Dorotheus do not rely heavily upon exact timing of the return. Therefore, questions of precession and relocation of the return chart are largely irrelevant.  To find the transits of the return, we look to “…when the Sun enters the beginning of the minute in which it was on the day of the native’s nativity” (Dorotheus, Book IV, Ch. 1, #4, Pingree trans., 2005, p. 245).

Dorotheus on Returns

Dorotheus of Sidon gave some guidelines and aphorisms for the interpretation of transits “on the day on which that native was born” and “in the turning of the years”. These guidelines can be found in Book IV of his Carmen Astrologicum (#185-233 of Pingree trans.; Ch. 4 of Dykes trans.). His approach focuses on planetary transits into specific natal houses, such as those occupied by certain natal planets.

For a complete understanding of the guidelines given by Dorotheus, I urge the reader to pick up a copy of his work (click image below for best translation). It is essential reading in Hellenistic astrology, and one of the most influential astrological works of all time. Later Persian and European medieval astrology owes a great debt to Dorotheus.

Dorothean Return Guidelines

For the reader’s convenience, I summarize some of his guidelines below. Generally, there are many guidelines that relate to the bad indicated when a return malefic is with, opposed, or square itself or an important natal position. By contrast, there are many good indications pertaining to when a return benefic is with or trine itself or an important natal position. There is even good pertaining to a return benefic dominating (right side square) a natal malefic (see below).

1st Rule: Return Oppositions to Natal Positions Show Difficulties

These are whole sign oppositions of a planet to itself. For instance, if Mars were in Capricorn in the natal chart but in Cancer on the solar return. Note that this configuration is impossible with the return Sun, Mercury, or Venus (except in regards to their twelfth-part positions).

2nd Rule: Transit of Out of Sect Malefic to Natal Sect Light or Benefic is Difficult

This pertains to the out of sect malefic of the natal chart transiting to the sign containing the sect light or sect benefic in the natal chart. For instance, take a person born by day with Sun or Jupiter in Sagittarius. If the solar return Mars is in Sagittarius this would indicate difficulty concerning those placements. From Dorotheus (Book IV, Ch. 1, #188, Pingree trans., 2005): “It is worse for this [native] and more difficult in its maleficence if Mars is reaching the place in which Jupiter or the Sun was by day, or [if] Saturn is reaching the place in which the Moon was by night.”

3rd Rule: Watch Malefic Squares and Oppositions, and Benefic Trines

Overall, it is good when a malefic (Saturn or Mars) is in a whole sign trine to its natal position. It is generally difficult if the malefic is in a whole sign opposition or square to its natal position, particularly if dominating the natal position.  It is also good if a return benefic (Jupiter or Venus) is in a dominating position to a natal malefic. If dominating a return malefic, it is also likely to ease the difficulty. Similarly, it is good when the benefics are trine their natal positions. However, it is difficult when the malefics are trine the natal positions of the benefics. For instance, take one with Mars in Gemini. It would be good for Mars to be in Libra or Aquarius at the return. Furthermore, it is especially good if return Venus were in Pisces because that sign is in a dominating position to Gemini.

4th Rule: Watch Transits to Dark Places of the Natal Chart

It is difficult when a return planet is in a place (i.e. house) of the nativity which is bad. This is especially so if it also occupies such a place in the natal chart.  According to Dorotheus (Book I, Ch. 5), the best places are the 1st, 10th, 11th, 5th, 7th, 4th, and 9th, in that order.  The worst places are the 6th and 12th, while the 8th, 2nd, and 3rd are moderately bad (from worst to least bad).

For instance, take one born with Aquarius rising and Mars in Capricorn. It will be particularly bad if Mars is in Capricorn (natal 12th) or Cancer (natal 6th) in the return. Cancer would be the most difficult as it would also be opposed its natal position (see above). It could also be difficult if Mars is in Virgo (natal 8th), Pisces (natal 2nd), or Aries (natal 3rd). Of those placements, Aries would be more difficult due to the square to the natal position, while Virgo would be least difficult due to the trine to natal position.

5th Rule: The Natal and Return Moon are Particularly Important

The house of the return Moon is a focal area, as are return planets reaching the house occupied by the natal Moon. The Moon is particularly important for health. Overall, the idea is that the return Moon with benefic natal planets shows good things,while with malefic natal planets shows bad things. It is similar when return benefics and malefics reach the place of the natal Moon.

Dorotheus notes many miscellaneous indications for the Moon. The return Moon with natal Mercury shows work pertaining to the signification of natal Mercury. Solar return Moon in natal 1st can show health danger. The solar return Moon in natal 10th shows public events which are good or bad in accordance with influence of benefics and malefics. Return Moon in natal 7th shows success over enemies. Solar return Moon in natal 4th shows secret matters and/or success with writing a will.

Overall, these four whole sign places, also called the angles or stakes of the chart (the 1st, 10th, 7th, and 4th), give indications regarding important life matters. For instance, take one born with Pisces rising and Saturn as the out of sect malefic in the natal 10th (Sagittarius). The Moon transiting in Sagittarius in the return could be indicative of some difficult public event, and even of health problems pertaining to cold or depletion.

6th Rule: Annual Profection of the Ascendant Shows the Most Important Places

The natal and return factors in the sign of the annual profection of the Ascendant are particularly important. The ruler of the annual profection is also highlighted, both in terms of return transits to it and in terms of its solar return placement.

Solar returns were meant to be used with profections as part of a suite of annual predictive techniques. Therefore, the fourth book of Dorotheus explains both profections and solar returns.  For example, Dorotheus noted, “If the year reaches the sign in which Saturn was and Saturn is in it or aspects if from trine or quartile [i.e. square] or the seventh [i.e. opposition], then the native will have a bad reputation, and there will reach him folly and injury and hostility from men …”  (Book IV, Ch. 1, #23, Pingree trans., 2005).

A Few Examples

For these examples, I’ll be using the free open-source astrological software, Morinus.  You can download the traditional version of Morinus here.

I will examine the return by look first at the annual profection and indications related to it from the natal and return, then the impact concerning the angles of the chart and the Lights, especially the Moon.  For each example, ignore the numbers on the outside of the chart, as those are for the house positions in the return chart itself, which Dorotheus ignored.

Example 1: 10th House Mars Opposed Natal 4th House Mars


Example 1
Example 1
Mercury-Saturn and the Profection

Example 1 (above) is the 1958 return of someone born in 1935, and thus is that of someone who has turned 23. Age 23 signals an annual profection of the Ascendant to the 12th place, Gemini, ruled by and natally occupied by Mercury.

Mercury in the return is transiting in the natal 2nd, which is considered one of the bad places.  Natally, Mercury is in the 12th, which is considered one of the worst places. Therefore, by rule #4, we are getting the sense that the year could be difficult for this native, relating to Mercurial themes of movement and communication. Furthermore, the out of sect malefic Saturn, is transiting through the 6th of the natal, opposing Mercury. This is difficult in itself given Mercury’s status as lord of the year, but it also emphasizes the natal configuration of Saturn dominating Mercury. Natally, Saturn in IX dominates Mercury, and IX concerns religion and foreign influence.  Saturn transiting in the 6th in the return dominates (right-hand square) natal Saturn, exacerbating the maleficence of Saturn (see rule #3).

Influence of Venus

The transit of Venus through the sign of the profection, Gemini, is mixed. She is the sect benefic and has influence upon the lord of the year. Venus provides a positive and protective indication but she is transiting through one of the worst places (the 12th), and occupies a bad place natally (the 2nd). She rules the 4th of land and origins and the 11th of friends and aid, so she connects the native with those themes.

Example 1
Example 1
4th House Mars and the Angles

Both Jupiter and Mars are transiting in natal angles.  Jupiter in the 4th, where natal Mars is, signifies some degree of fortune as concerns land, origins, and workings in secret. However, Mars is opposed to it and opposed to its natal position (see rule #1). This activates the worst of the difficulty signified by Mars in the 4th. With return Mars in the rather public and authority-oriented 10th, it is bringing violence from on high from authority. Additionally, return Mars is in a dominating position to the natal Sun, signifying the threat of violence to the native.

Return Moon in IX with Saturn

The return Moon is in the 9th of foreign influence and religion.It is with natal Saturn, the out of sect malefic. This is a sign of great difficulty and threat. The Moon and the 9th naturally signify journeys, so it suggests a focus on a journey, with great difficulty.

Dalai Lama XIV

Example 1 was the chart of the 14th Dalai Lama (chart rated A for accuracy). The solar return is that which preceded his fleeing his country, Tibet, which he had previously ruled. He fled in fear of his life to his exile in India, amid the spring 1959 Tibetan uprising.

Example 2: 7th House Saturn Opposes Natal 1st House Saturn


Example 2 (CTRL+Click to enlarge)
Example 2
1st House Profection Ruled by 11th House Jupiter

Example 2 is the chart of someone turning 72, and as 72 is a multiple of 12. Therefore, the annual profection was to the 1st place, Pisces. Pisces is occupied by natal Saturn and ruled by Jupiter.  Jupiter, the lord of the profection is returning to its natal position in the 11th. The 11th is Jupiter’ joy and this is a great placement, significant for popularity, friends, aid, and so forth.  This person is a movie star and did in fact have a dozen films in the works in the year under consideration.

Saturn, the 1st House Occupant

Deeper inspection reveals that not only is natal Saturn highlighted by the profection to the 1st, but Saturn is also transiting in an angle, the natal 7th, pertaining to partnership and sexuality. Saturn is opposed to its natal position (see rule #1).  The natal Sun is additionally dominated by that angular Saturn in the 7th (as is Mercury). Therefore, we find Saturn (constriction, death) in the house of partnership and sexuality (VII) activating the adverse indications for the body (I) and reputation (Sun in X) signified by the natal partile Sun-Saturn square.

Return Mars in the 10th

Looking at other angular factors, we find that return Mars, the out of sect malefic, is in the 10th and actually conjunct the Sun within a degree. Given the affliction of the 1st house and the Sun by both malefics, we are seeing some major indications of danger to the health and reputation.

Example 2
Example 2
Return Moon

Examining the Moon we find that it is in the 2nd, ruled by Mars. The Moon is opposed to its natal position (see rule #1). It is also in a bad place (2nd) and occupies a bad place in the natal chart (8th). Additionally, in the natal chart she is in the 8th pertaining to death and she is with Mars, the out of sect malefic. Mars (violence) with the Moon (physicality) is a natal indication of bodily harm. The return Moon’s opposition to that configuration while under the rulership of Mars (Scorpio) reinforces the difficult natal indications in that regard. Therefore, we have strong indications of threat to health in the chart.

David Carradine

Example 2 is the chart of David Carradine (chart AA rated for accuracy). His 2008 solar return preceded his death by autoerotic asphyxiation. His manner of death had a particularly damning effect upon the public image he left behind.

Example 3: Out of Sect Saturn Conjoins Natal Sun


Example 3 (CTRL+Click to enlarge)
Example 3

I will briefly touch on one more chart to emphasize the difficulty of return malefics with Lights. Example 2 had return Mars (out of sect malefic) conjoin the Sect Light (Sun) reflecting Rule 2.

Profections Alone Are Not Enough

Example 3 is the 1994 return of someone born in 1967, thus 27 years of age, in a 4th place profection.  From the profection alone, the indications appear to be largely positive. Jupiter is lord of the profection and natally is in its joy in the 11th. However, the solar return reveals a different story. What is striking about the return is the occurrence of a conjunction of transiting Saturn to the Sun within a degree in an angle of the chart. Additionally, Saturn is returning to its natal place and the return Moon is square to natal Saturn (and all the other planets in Pisces).

Kurt Cobain

Example 3 is the chart of Kurt Cobain (rated A for accuracy). The solar return is the one from 1994, which preceded his suicide.

Return Malefic to Natal Light

This theme of a close conjunction between a malefic and a Light occurs with some frequency in returns that precede death, even those by suicide. It can strongly indicate a threat to health, even from one’s own self!  For instance, Ilya Zhitomirskiy, one of the founders of the social network Diaspora, had a similar tight Sun-Saturn conjunction in the return preceding his own suicide. I wrote about that configuration at the end of my article on Diaspora.


So far, I’ve only looked at a few solar return examples, and very briefly. From Dorotheus we learn that returns can be significant as a set of transits to the natal chart itself. The natal angles, the Lights, and the annual profection help to guide our way and show which significations are most important.  Dorotheus looked at the overall influence of the benefics and malefics. He paid particular attention to the role of sect, house, and aspect in modifying indications for better or worse. Later astrologers would expand on these notions. In the medieval period, the houses and Ascendant of the return itself also came to be important. However, the guidelines laid out by Dorotheus provide us with a solid foundation from which to start our examination of the year from the solar return.


Dorotheus of Sidon. (2005). Carmen Astrologicum. (D. Pingree, Trans.). Abingdon, MD: Astrology Center of America.
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The featured image of a Sun symbol (cropped) is by Szabi237 [GFDL or CC BY 3.0], via Wikimedia Commons

Update 2018
This article was edited for clarity on 12/16/2018. Some additional links were also added at that time including a link to a superior translation of Dorotheus which was published after the original publication of this article. 


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  • May 19, 2019 at 6:55 am

    Anthony, I have some second thoughts about Dorotheus’ SR. I’ve been pondering this, but there is still some doubt on my part.
    The thing is that Dorotheus indeed says that the beginning of the year is when the Sun enters its exact minute. But somehow Pingree has taken that to mean that Dorotheus is talking about Solar Return, but I have some serious doubts about this. Most of what he writes in that chapter looks more profections than SR.

    I find this unclear:
    “From the base-nativity is known what is concerning him (the native) at the beginning of the year, and the beginning of the year is always when the Sun enters the beginning of the minute in which it was on the day of the natives’s nativity.”

    That to me doesn’t necessarily say that he is talking about SR! This simply applies to profection.

    The only part where he might be talking about SR is this:

    “Now I will make clear to you (what happens) if the year reaches where the planets were in the nativity.
    If the year reaches the sign in which Saturn was (in nativity) and Saturn IS IN IT or aspects it from trine or quartile…..”

    This does talk about two positions of Saturn, one in radix and one possibly in SR. I can’t help but to be suspicious here. Dorotheus doesn’t mention the return ascendant, so SR as a chart is definitely not his thing.

    Is Dykes any more clear that it is all about SR???

    Thank you for clarification.


    • May 28, 2019 at 1:45 pm

      Hi Rok,

      Unfortunately, in the article I said the rules were given in Ch. 1 of Book IV but the whole book is just one chapter in the Pingree edition, and the section is actually in Ch. 4 of the Dykes edition. Therefore, it was not that clear what part of Book IV I was referring to, especially since those lines you quoted are near the start while the section on transits at the return is near the end. I’ve revised the article to be a bit clearer about the section.

      Looking at Ch. 4 of Book IV of the Dykes translation (or #185-233 of Book IV of the Pingree one) it becomes a lot clearer that solar return transits are referred to. The chapter begins with Dorotheus saying he will now make clear the “changing over” of the planets to each other’s places. Dykes notes that the Arabic word which he translated as “changing over” is the usual word for “revolution”. Then in that chapter as he discusses the transits of the planets, Dorotheus regularly reminds the reader that he is discussing the transits in the conversion of years (i.e. revolution; Pingree translates as “turning of the years”) and there are a few instances of him noting that the indications signal good or bad events “in that year”.

      So, yeah, it’s clear in Ch. 4 of the Dykes translation that the discussion of “transits” is really a discussion of transits at the time of the solar return. The indications provided there (and in the corresponding section of Pingree) are the ones that I discuss in this article. For more discussion, Dykes has a whole section on Dorotheus’s use of returns with his other predictive techniques in the introduction to his translation (Section 8).

      Best wishes,


  • March 12, 2019 at 2:51 pm

    In rules like #2 ….This pertains to the out of sect malefic of the natal chart transiting to the sign containing the sect light or sect benefic in the natal chart….
    would this also mean squares and oppositions or just when it’s transiting in the sign (conjunctions)?

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  • April 2, 2018 at 8:31 pm

    sorry – i reposted the lunar return question before seeing your answer. My computer was hinky and said it could not connect with your site the first time I sent it. Please disregard.

  • April 2, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    It’s puzzling why a sidereal technique would work for the tropical zodiac.
    Also, do you also precess lunar returns?

    • April 4, 2018 at 3:49 pm

      There are definitely two solar returns, no matter what zodiac you use to do your delineations. There is the return to the same position relative to the sphere of the fixed stars, and there is the return to the same position in the zodiac. They don’t often make a huge difference if you are just looking at the return as a set of transits, but if you are focusing in depth on the Ascendant (as suggested by Abu Ma’shar) then it is worth looking into the precessed charts.

      However, experiment with both. I still experiment with both myself, but in my own life and a few key years in lives of others I’ve seen the precessed solar return Ascendant point right to the key sign and factors.

  • March 27, 2018 at 11:01 am

    Do you also precess lunar returns?

    • March 27, 2018 at 4:37 pm

      Yes, if I’m going to look at the return Ascendant as a factor. I’m often lazy and stuck in Valens or Morinus, so there are times when I use the tropical and solely analyze the transits.

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  • June 13, 2012 at 8:19 am

    Very true.Such a nice concept.Your information is true up to great most of the extent. Thanks for sharing.Thanks for the useful information and even i come to learn lot of new things .

  • April 1, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Hi Anthony,
    Thank you for sharing your personal experiences.
    I am also influenced by Abu Mashar’ system and also think highly of Morin’s despite his personal arrogance and numerous drawbacks.
    I use the location where the native is during the solar return and if I will not know where they will be or am checking on past events and have the same situation, only then do I resort to the place of birth. The latter is not only because of the experiences of Ibn Ezra, Morin and Zoller but also my own. Still, I live in a small country and this is not such a big issue for me, yet I am careful because many more people travel nowadays.
    My experience confirms yours regarding the non-precessed returns and the angles, especially for major accidents like death etc. On the other hand, I have seen many charts where the birth location shows such accidents, as you demonstrate in your post as well. So it boils down to one’s personal approach and understanding of Astrology and after all the revolution is only one non-continuous technique, albeit an important one
    I have not researched precessed returns yet and you are the second person who I hear speak highly about this in the last 9 days!  I will look into them. The thing is that as you know the Hellenistic/Medieval is so rich on techniques that one must prioritize. Moreover, different techniques work with a different degree of reliability in different charts.

    Best Wishes,

  • April 1, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    Hi Anthony,

    First I want to thank for this article as well as for the others that you have been writing. It is both a pleasure and a good way to further sharpen one’s skills.
    I will also be getting a copy of Dorotheus after being intrigued by his method, that is for sure.

    Since the goal of your post is to only briefly show this technique without adding others, I will limit myself to pretty much analyzing only the revolution and the profection just a little bit, as you have done.

    I would like to add that in David Carradine’s revolution chart the Lord of the Year (LoY) Jupiter is arriving within 3 degrees to natal Venus ruler of the 8th place of death and both planets are in the same sign in the nativity, and even though they are not in orb, they remain related.
    The lord of the revolution, who is Mercury, rules the 4th sign in the nativity and it has to do with endings and death. Moreover, that same Mercury falls in the 4th of the revolution so we have another overlap.
    Also, the LoY Jupiter is in the revolution 5th, in fall, and it rules the 5th sign in the nativity by exaltation, and it reaches natal Venus in the lecherous sign of Capricorn. This ties in perfectly with what you wrote about his manner of death and reputation (Jupiter rules the 10th in the natal).

    In Curt Cobain’s chart I would add that the 8th sign rises in the revolution and Jupiter who is LoY (we have a 4th House year in this chart and note how the accident of death happens as it did with David Carradine whose revolution included and activated the 4th place) is in the profection 12th of self-undoing and it has arrived to the sign of the ruler of the natal place of death – Mars who is in the revolution place of death. Of course Scorpio is a violent sign. Lastly, Mars – who is the lord of the revolution – rules both the natal 8th and the revolution 8th and in the revolution Mars is square to Jupiter, the LoY.

    In conclusion, I want to say that I completely disagree with this Greek notion that revolutions are merely transits to the natal figure. They are not transits but something much more powerful because if they were only transits they almost would not work. I, like you, have found them to be extremely useful and valuable.
    Thanks again for the post and I look forward to other posts of yours where you will tackle additional ways of interpreting revolutions.

    Best wishes,

    • April 1, 2012 at 3:48 pm

      Hi Alex,

      Excellent analysis and a great contribution to the discussion! Thank you!

      Yes, I think the Dorothean approach here is informative, but I also look to the Ascendant and the places of the revolution chart, and I’m greatly influenced by Abu Ma’shar in that. I think it was Valens who also recommended drawing up a new Ascendant for the year, but it’s not totally clear that he was talking about it being the Ascendant of the revolution itself. Masha’allah is closer to the Hellenistic approach, and so also tends to use the revolution around the natal and primarily as a set of transits.

      Eventually, I’ll be getting to some of these other approaches to revolutions. Personally, I lean pretty heavily on precessed returns drawn from the birth location, which may be a surprise to some readers, and I read the themes, strength, beneficence/maleficence of the standalone precessed return as a modification of the natal. For instance, if Saturn is strong, in a good place, and in sect in a natal chart, but retreating, in the 6th out of sect in a precessed standalone return, then I’d say that while Saturn tends to show its more positive manifestations, it’s a year when Saturn may reveal some uglier manifestations, particularly in regards to health, or accidents, etc. I only use the angles and very close factors to the angles with the non-precessed return. This has been my take on precessed vs. non-precessed – that the precessed are fully readable as charts in their own right giving very strong indications in terms of house themes, etc. but that the non-precessed have very “hot” angular degrees. After many years of studying precessed vs. non-precessed I had virtually written off the non-precessed return until I saw a few striking examples concerning factors very near the angles in non-precessed returns, including a friend who went through a very traumatic incident with a girlfriend suddenly dying in a freak way when he was a teen, right after a non-precessed return with return Saturn (with Uranus) conjunct the Descendant of the return. Other examples soon followed, as you know they do in waves like that, as Urania likes to teach. It’s a little idiosyncratic, but I hope to get into a comparison of thoroughly reading standalone precessed vs. non-precessed returns in time.

      Best wishes,



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